Public opinion on the Draft Registration Bill 2025 is mixed but predominantly skeptical. While some see it as a progressive step towards reducing fraud and enhancing transparency, concerns about implementation, systemic corruption, and digital security overshadow these views. Skepticism arises from previous failures in digital integration, fear of misuse by authorities and corporations, and potential negative impacts on ordinary citizens. Despite potential benefits, the proposal is viewed with mistrust due to past corruption and inefficiencies.

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I wish it was as simple as buying and selling a car.
Single title/registration document that you sign over.

I should be able to check ownership,legal, encumbrance, liabilities online with a click of a button using unique ID assigned to the property.

With the current technology this can definitely be done and government tries to achieve this but then the system becomes more complicated.

pisces_bangalore

There is ton of money, corruption and power in owning land.

And hence no political will to get land records digitized, make it easy to own, buy and sell land parcels.

There is mess of claims and rights as well, and sorting it will be a nightmare with no side being happy, and hence that also acts as a deterrence to simplifying or digitizing records.

And this is not just india thing, I was watching a Pakistani podcast where narrator told a story of how a Pakistani dictator Jia ul haq went to a village,  an old lady complained to him saying that to get her own land records, local clerk was asking for 10 rupees as bribe, and she didn't have it and she needs help. Jia ul haq took out 10 rupees from his pocket and have to her saying to get her work done.

Same is the story here, for example bihar has no digital land records and hence no development, how will someone put industry when they can buy or lease land in first place.

wyrin

100% agree with you. I just bought my first home and hoping not to buy again in future because of so much complicated and lack of transparency from seller side. I don’t understand how some people buy so many properties one after another. May be a lot depends on property dealer too how good he is. Mine was absolutely idiot.

mylovelydaughter

The powers that are incharge have vested interests not to simplify all this shit. Even a top lawyer can never guarantee the legality of a plot. I usually take any land docs to my uncle who is a fairly successful HC lawyer and has argued cases of famous politicians. Even he tells me privately that he cannot guarantee any land because of hidden litigations and owners. And for agreements any document writer does that no need to go for lawyers.

Sufficient_Ad991

if entire process is automated and easy, thousands of middle men will lose their job and income. so lot of govt people ensure that it remains difficult

that is a harsh truth that things are so difficult in india in 2025. god knows what happened to digitial india ?

Manoos

Land and property was the main source and store of wealth for a long time, until the last few decades when financial wealth became common. Historically the tax collection was also based on landholdings. So Property has always had a lot of bureaucratic processes, laws and legal disputes attached to it. The British collected taxes based on land, so they developed elaborate legal systems to manage it.

During independence we inherited this entire system from the British. Most of the property related laws were literally made by the British Raj. Some examples:

The Transfer of Property Act, 1882.
The registration act of 1908.
The easements act, 1882.

Because of this legacy nature, reform and simplification has proved to be very elusive. The other factor is that states hold the power when it comes to land (state list). Even for the simplest reform like digitizing land records, many states don't cooperate.

The other fact is of course, the use of land to hold black money and benami property. Any reform will mean simplification and transparency which is unpalatable to the entrenched interests. So they resist the reforms.

Thick_tongue6867

Even after all this , your property will not be safe.

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The main reason is lack of Absolute Titles - where Govt. gives absolute status to a title holder and takes responsibility if someone files a counter-claim. You as a consumer are nearly 100% protected with an absolute-title, since it is not given in case there is a litigation or any issue.  
  
India follows a system of Relative Titling, where the buyer is supposed to take the responsibility of verifying the past record of ownership of a property going back to 70 years - and it's his own problem if someone files a counter-claim. The government charges you insane taxes for registering the sale agreement, but it doesn't mean they will help you in case of any trouble. Govt. takes no responsibility in relative titling and that's the entire reason so many problems exist.

India has land collected from over 500 princely states in 1947, and each followed a different system then - In order to placate those princes and zamindars, Govt. made Land Titling a state subject and no state ever interfered in resolving this issue.

The current status quo actually helps Babus, Gundas, Politicians, Lawyers, etc. to make money by enabling settlements - hence they have no incentive in changing it.

Absolute Titling means giving peace of mind to common citizens and enabling them to prosper - which they don't want to happen in any case, hence we will doomed to suffer forever.

Most-Tonight-9876

That's why people generally advice to work with professional real estate consultants. Working with a reliable property agent can save you a lot of stress. They can handle it all - from documentation to any legal checks. If you need any recommendations, let me know.

OkEntertainment6443

Moooaaar data to the government, Moaaaar misuse, moaaaaar being away from the actual problem, yaaay!

rickysanchez_

So for the convenience of Swiggy and cabs govt has taken a big step .what a logic/s

prof_devilsadvocate3

Basically Google Map er Plus Code er concept ta ke nijer naame chaliye dewa

Arijitdesignsit

More surveillance, nothing else. These degenerates want everyone's data, but when it comes to data showing COVID deaths, or Electoral bonds they don't want to show any of it.

1647overlord

google already has this. it's called plus codes

GamingGladi

[link to the news article ](https://www.timesnownews.com/business-economy/economy/new-digital-id-for-your-home-govt-plans-address-aadhaar-that-will-change-how-we-use-locations-in-india-article-151737607)

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WolvesOfWaffleStreet

Generally speaking, methods of doing business are less favored right now under current practice and thus would be very difficult to patent.  That said, without knowing the specifics it's hard to give a definitive answer.

Specifically, in the US, abstract ideas are a judicially defined area that are not patentable subject matter under 35 USC § 101.

One of the types abstract ideas [includes](https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s2106.html):
&gt;Certain methods of organizing human activity – fundamental economic principles or practices (including hedging, insurance, mitigating risk); commercial or legal interactions (including agreements in the form of contracts; legal obligations; advertising, marketing or sales activities or behaviors; business relations); managing personal behavior or relationships or interactions between people (including social activities, teaching, and following rules or instructions) (see MPEP § 2106.04(a)(2), subsection II).

Further, if you don't have the 15k to start a business, you definitely don't have the funds to seek patent protection which could easily eclipse that amount in legal and USPTO fees.

Casual_Observer0

Yes, it is possible if the invention and the application meet the patentability requirements.

The only chance you have to patent this is by working with a good patent attorney and spending a large amount of money (over 15 grand) just on the patent application process. I say this as someone who generally doesn’t like that answer since it can be a cop-out.

BlitzkriegKraut

Insurance? Idk but there are companies like Markel that provide excess and surplus insurance which pretty much covers everything that traditional insurance doesn't under custom policies.

[deleted]

Everything the tea party, freedom party &amp; MAGA railed against. It’s their Orwell moment

EconZen_master

The end goal is to build an AI-powered surveillance state headed by King Vance and run as a confederation of corporate feudal states. I wish I was being dramatic but they've been pretty open about it.

espressocycle

This was the true purpose of DOGE. To steal all our personal data in order to enter into AI. Then that information is for sale to the highest bider.

jertheman43

TaborToss

It’s hard to put into words how much I hate the “so much for the party of small government” comments. The GOP was always fascist and totalitarian. Hold on to your neighbor if they are worth it. The sun has set and it is getting dark and cold fast.

noodleunknown

Good thing we don’t have a national Id for identify management to aggregate all this data. By the way here are the last 4 of my social security number 6969

MovingTargetPractice

The hilarious part is the GOP has [opposed this kind of thing](https://www.heritage.org/civil-society/report/national-identity-card-inching-toward-big-brother) for decades but now with their cheeto god in power they will toss away all previous values for anything the king directs.

Lost-Philosophy6689

&gt; On April 12, 1933, the German government announced plans to conduct a long-delayed national census.[2]: 54  The project was particularly important to the Nazis as a mechanism for the identification of Jews, Roma, and other ethnic groups deemed undesirable by the regime. Dehomag offered to assist the German government in its task of ethnic identification, focusing upon the 41 million residents of Prussia.[2]: 55  This activity was not only countenanced by Thomas Watson and IBM in America, Black argues, but was actively encouraged and financially supported, with Watson himself traveling to Germany in October 1933 and the company ramping up its investment in its German subsidiary from 400,000 to 7,000,000 Reichsmark—about $1 million (equivalent to $24.3 million in 2024).[2]: 60  This injection of American capital allowed Dehomag to purchase land in Berlin and to construct IBM's first factory in Germany, Black charges, thereby "tooling up for what it correctly saw as a massive financial relationship with the Hitler regime".[2]: 60 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

LEMental

I think, correct me if I'm wrong on this, server racks don't take well to water or blunt trauma, right?

phoenix_shm

And this is why they went in and installed ghost servers on every agency's network, copy all their databases to be imported into a Palantir DB.

Phobos1982

I wonder how long until this gets hacked and all the collected data is leaked to the public. I give it a year tops.

AeonZX

Where's rand paul and his stupid hair? This should be a no-brainer for him to be against.

Greek_Toe

So like, how are the "freedom loving" MAGA patriots gonna spin this one into foamy-lipped support and adulation?

ctrlaltcreate

Guess who’s gonna be top priority on those list lol 

That’s us 

Stonna

Hard to be a shittier American than a Trump supporter these days

Medical_Arugula3315

The elves would be disappointed. The Panantiri were not to be used lightly. Same with Andúril.

MoarSocks

I wasn’t conscious during this period so idk, but isn’t this what the fear was from the Patriot act?

Reksican

I wonder what the tinfoil hat MAGAs think about this. Oh yeah, they’re too occupied with the battle against the lizard people to care about what’s actually happening.

Designer-Classroom71

CorvidHighlander_586

Ah, so this is what all the new data-centers are for.

maximum_dissipation

But but but the illegals don’t pay taxes (so we pardon people who committed asinine amounts of tax fraud &amp; also used the IRS to locate undocumented immigrants… by using the records of them paying taxes…)

kitkat470

Starky_Love

So there is no database of gun owners other than the NFA registry. The FFL data is decentralized. They’d first have to request all 4473 forms from all FFLs, so we’d at least have a heads up. Anything the govt has is very incomplete, right? I’m an FFL, and I’ve only once reported a sale to the govt because it’s required when someone buys 2 or more guns in a 5 day period. Even then, I sent a PDF. It would still take data entry to get it into a database.

DamnRock

I mean, that already exists. Essentially.      
     
If people don’t think this doesn’t already exist?  Snowden didn’t exile to Russia for this kind of ignorance. The NSA has been doing surveillance for 20+ years. Everyone’s already been profiled numerous times over. You can’t buy a gun without a 4473, a federal background check. The data exists, and everyone knows that if you have guns you acquired other ways you simply don’t talk about them? Nobody needs to know at all.        
      
You buy property through the government. It’s public information, I can go find it on every states GIS website.   Your income shows on your taxes every year. It’s already data they have…. Minus your credit score. But your credit score is probably pretty easy to find so long as you have someone’s social security number. You know, your federal serial number.      
     
I know, I know - “the government doesn’t harvest the data when you buy a gun!” Let’s say for even a moment, that it’s true.  Every gun purchase is kept by the retailer. When a crime is committed, and the police find a gun and run the serial number, it pulls up a FEDERAL DATABASE of firearms that will tell them where the gun was sold. They can do that immediately. So I have almost no trust that a government focused on national security so closely that they wiretapped every American, and created profiles using their web footprints wouldn’t keep that information.      
    
Just to prove it, here’s a list of every single licensed gun dealer by state for your viewing pleasure - [Here.](https://www.atf.gov/firearms/listing-federal-firearms-licensees).  100% of all guns sold the last 20 years through a licensed dealer has paperwork on file at the dealer.

problyurdad_

Wait! I thought it was us Leftists and Democrats that want to put people on lists…. 🙄

grimmpulse

Bad news. Most of this is already archived. Not the credit score, though. Nobody cares about that, since the government isn’t going to give you money, anyway.

WarriorGma

Willdefyyou

Delta632

Trump is the president who is going to take away the guns.

EyeSuspicious777

Remember when the type of people who became Trumpets were all worried about a government database of gun owners? Hell, even a database of citizens at all?

Look how far we've come.

FirmUnion948

I brought this up with my MAGA friends last night at the bar except I do something to them all the time to turn the tables on them. I asked them if they heard the report that just came out that Biden and Soros were compiling a database of every American then let them lose their minds for a couple of minutes before I tell them the truth. Since conservatives only hear lies told to then by Fox they never hear the actual terrible things Republicans do so I use this tactic on them all the time. It is pretty funny how often I shut them up. I always insist they get their phones out to fact check me but they never do. Even though they hear the truth from me they don't care, they just keep whistling past the graveyard. 

AlanStanwick1986

It's what the NAZIs did in the third reich... 

But hey, you americans must not worry, you have your second amendment that gives you the means to rise up, if tyranny EVER would knock at your door. So, tyranny must not be there, otherwise you'd rise up, right? RIGHT?

NoImag1nat1on

Straight_Traffic_350

Low-Duty

If you think it's "just the illegals", you're in for a huge surprise...

Defiantcaveman

So weird that they accused the other side of doing all this stuff. It's so weird.

MrMayhem3

Brought to you by the party that was successful in getting Congress to pass the Patriot Act and authorize spying on Americans under the assurance that they wouldn't target Americans, just foreign terrorists.

Present_Coconut_4101

ispyanomalies

The Trump administration is full of dangerous morons. I see that and say "GL trying to maintain and secure it" because that's a hell of a lot of information to maintain. With their track record, they have no iota how security works so they would get breached quickly from halfassing it.

All that info they're wanting to keep will constantly be changing. How the fuck are they going to afford to store it and maintain it??

They are all so goddamn stupid. Per usual, they don't think about how this is going to work. They are the very definition of the good idea fairy.

Winterberry_Biscuits

Didn't the NRA nerf gun regulations so significantly that it's all currently a paper system that is a filing nightmare thus there really isn't even a system currently in place? It would take decades to get all that information digitized.

Cynical_Satire

OnionSquared

The government already has all that info...  
They have for a long time.

h0nest_Bender

Maybe I'm getting old, but this post should have been a link to the NYT article and not a Facebook style image macro complete with random capitalization, apostrophe abuse (the apostrophe should have been at the end of Americans', since this is a plural possessive), and sentence fragments.

thephotoman

The best part is that no matter what happens to Tump, no matter who the next administration is, the database is forever.

Initial_E

used_octopus

I read the article, where does it talk about guns?

Eldrake

News like this makes me glad I’ve avoided all social media for years at a time, and don’t allow smart speakers in my house to log every single conversation. Americans paid for the very surveillance systems that will imprison them. 

Get rid of your smart speakers now, they already have years of private conversations, don’t give them any more. Also, make sure all smart assistant(Siri) functions are turned off on your phone. There are multiple settings, including separate settings for watches and apps, it sometimes takes a few tries to turn it off. I’ve helped several family members do it on their phones after getting targeted ads based on their conversations.

ScoobNShiz

I’m excited to hear Alex jones contort himself into a position where this surveillance state is a good thing

Cniatx1982

I have bills of sale for all of my firearms that have been "sold". Sadly, the ones I didn't sell were lost in a tragic boating accident. 

I'm fresh out.

Yojimbo115

Ahhhh yes.  Social credit scores here we come.  See all you fuckers at the reeducation camps!!!

Soup3rTROOP3R

Total Information Awareness on steroids.   No real surprise that the party of authoritarians keep coming back to this idea.

truthinessembargo

And this is why you should be wary of anyone demanding “common sense gun laws.”

One of the first things russia did when it invaded Ukraine was raid local police stations and gun clubs to identify which civilians owned guns so they could execute those people first.

whatsgoing_on

I've been telling people that it's the Right who will take your guns away.

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